“D’s” Superbowl Reactions

February 6, 2012 at 7:18 am 11 comments


This truly was an exciting Super Bowl from top to bottom. Both teams clearly came to play and brought their “A” games. This was a much lower scoring game than I had anticipated, and my earlier prediction was wrong, it was the Giants, not the Patriots, winning a close one. Unlike my co-creator/blogger on this page, I am a Cowboys fan, even though I reside in New York. Despite the Cowboys and the Giants having a long-standing rivalry, I found myself rooting for the G-Men over the Pats. I suppose on a night when I had to choose to be either a New Yorker or a Cowboys fan, I choose New Yorker, and wanted to see Boston fail. There is also just an air around Tom Brady, which quite frankly I find rather un-likable.

I have been a long time Eli hater, and this season truly proved me wrong in every which way. He carried this team on his back, all while backing up the bold statement made earlier in the season about being in the same class as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees. Eli had a terrific Super Bowl, and really did out-play Tom Brady. Eli showed just how tough he was tonight as well, taking quite a pounding but never showing signs of injury or fatigue. Maybe you should take some lessons, huh Tom? Both defences played well, even when going against potent offenses. The Giants were just able to make the plays on defence end called upon at the end.

This game truly gives Eli Manning iconic status, and makes him the undisputed best QB of the 2004 draft class. This also in my opinion, makes him the best quarterback in franchise history. No, he is not his brother, but he certainly left that shadow miles behind him, and has solidified an immortal legacy in this league.

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  • 1. Mike Frangione  |  February 6, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    I have to disagree – again – that Eli is the “undispited” best QB of the 2004 draft class. The way I see it, Ben Roethlisberger and Eli both have two Super Bowl rings. At best, it’s a draw.

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    • 2. Mike Frangione  |  February 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm

      “undisputed”

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    • 3. dnasportsandmovies  |  February 6, 2012 at 8:13 pm

      Ben imo is the third best of that class….but I will agree to disagree.

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      • 4. Mike Frangione  |  February 7, 2012 at 2:42 am

        Fair enough. By the way, Matt Schaub was also in the 2004 class, most likely making Roethlisberger the 4th best in that draft. 5th, if you put Losman above him too.

        Too bad Tony Romo was an undrafted free agent in 2003 and not 2004, Ben then might have slipped to 6th.

      • 5. dnasportsandmovies  |  February 7, 2012 at 2:50 am

        Not quite that extreme haha. Although putting Losman above anyone is a funny concept.

  • 6. Mike Frangione  |  February 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Reblogged this on It Depends on What the Meaning of the Word 'Blog' is.

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  • 7. sexy rexy  |  February 6, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    The way I see it is Eli followed by a big gap and big Ben then a much smaller gap and Rivers.

    The Giants won both Super Bowls due to Eli making huge plays when he they needed him most.The defense stepped up too but it can not be understated how well Eli played in both games.

    In Ben’s first Super Bowl he was horrible. The Steelers won that game in spite of him. He was much better in the second win. I think its bit telling that despite the fact Super Bowl MVP award is given predominantly given to Quarterbacks, Ben has yet to win one.

    Where Rivers fits in is kind of difficult to judge. He has arguably put up the best numbers of any one in that class but he has yet to win anything of significance. Depending on how much weight you put on those factors he could fit in second or third.

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  • 8. Mike Frangione  |  February 7, 2012 at 2:59 am

    Super Bowl MVPs aren’t always the best gauge of a players worth. Just look at Desmond Howard, Deion Branch, Dexter Jackson and Santonio Holmes. All decent players, but none have really become among the best in the league. Holmes is especially baffling, given the talent he has.

    As for Ben’s horrible play in his first Super Bowl, I can’t really argue with that. But I can say that in 2003, he took over the team and led them to a 15-1 record (13-0 himself) as a rookie.

    Then in his second season, he again led the team to a Super Bowl, this time, alertly making a great play in the AFC Championship game to prevent a fumble return from ending the Steelers season against Indianapolis.

    Maybe he wasn’t the hero of either Super Bowl, but he damn sure put that ball on the money for Holmes to catch.

    Just for the record, here’s the statistical tally for these 3 QBs:

    Manning: 27,579 yards, 185 TDs, 129 INT, 2 SB wins
    Big Ben: 26,579 yards, 165 TDs, 100 INT, 2 SB wins, 1 loss
    Rivers: 24,285 yards, 163 TDs, 78 INT, 0 SB wins
    Schaub: 17,936 yards, 98 TDs, 58 INT, 0 SB wins

    I don’t see this ‘big gap’ – each of these QBs has done great things for their teams, and only two have done great things to get their team to a Super Bowl and/or win a Super Bowl.

    With all due respect, I’d dispute the ‘big gap’ part of your assessment, but I respect your comments in general and agree with your assessment of Manning. He probably is the best of the class, but only by the nose of a football.

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  • 9. sexy rexy  |  February 7, 2012 at 3:19 am

    Rivers sat behind Brees for his first two years. I think its safe to assume that if he started both those years or even just one of them he would have put up the 3000 yrds and 22 tds needed to be top in both categories. However I have no problem with anyone who would want to rank him 3rd simply because he hasn’t won anything. In fact I agree with that assessment.

    I realize that the Super Bowl MVP doesn’t necessarily prove how good a player is. But it is does paint a good picture about what player was most important to the teams success in that game. Twice sportswriters (and fans) agreed Big Ben was not that guy.

    IMO the only way that anyone can put Eli and Ben on the same level as QBs is if you only factor in SB wins. I believe that if you take the performances in those games into account it creates a pretty favorable argument for Eli.

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    • 10. Mike Frangione  |  February 7, 2012 at 3:32 am

      I believe that sportswriters are about as reliable as Super Bowl MVPs in determining a players value. Especially if they are NY sportswriters.

      And why does the assessment of a player have to stop at how he did in a game (any game, really. Truthfully, the SB is just another football game)? By that logic, we can assume that Eli isn’t all that good if he’s chucking interceptions. I mean, the NY press was saying he was done – earlier this year.

      So all is forgiven now? All that negativity from the fans and writers just goes away? Eli should be graded exactly the way Ben should. On an entire body of work.

      Doing that, I see that Eli gets a more favorable rating, but I don’t see there being a significant gulf between them. Now, if Eli wins a 3rd Super Bowl (or Ben, for that matter), then the argument changes.

      How about this? Now with 2 SB losses (and an average performance), does Brady now belong in a similar category as Big Ben and Eli?

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  • 11. sexy rexy  |  February 7, 2012 at 3:51 am

    The Super Bowl is not just another football game. There’s a difference between the Super Bowl and playoff games and there’s a difference between playoff games and regular season games. Some people can’t handle the pressure. I would say that both Eli and Big Ben have both shown they can handle it well. Although I think Eli handles it a bit better.

    In the end its a subjective judgement. There’s no true way to definitively rank players that makes everyone happy.

    As far as your Brady question I think the two losses to the Giants do hurt him to a certain extent. I think losing twice to the same team will hurt him. Depending on what the Giants go on to do in the coming years Eli vs Brady could become a real debate.

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